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Daichi Yamato
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Posted - 2014.01.06 18:19:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:couple of points...
people are saying that lighting or using covert cyno would flag you suspect...I thought it was covert? Why would everyone know you have done something covert?
it stops being covert the second its used in hi-sec. perhaps for the ppl who have poor reading comprehension the thread should be renamed 'HI-SEC CYNO!!!!!!!' and make it a new mod or something.
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
secondly...this would allow large hauler to drastically cut travel routes if used correctly wouldn't it? good for the hauler, bad for the gankers? Or good for the gankers as they can loiter and hot-drop areas with impunity?
Cloaky transports are already very difficult to catch. this is a terrible arguing point. cyno'ing requires a lot more effort and resources to complete, perhaps even enough to balance the reduced travel time and the negligibly lower risk of avoiding gank systems. if the cyno creator and jumper go suspect, then it may in some situations be more dangerous to cyno.
The genuine difficulties i see with this idea is neut cyno alts. they are no where near as easy to identify in high sec as they are low or null. Even RR can be identified in D-scan before it joins the fight. Perhaps having everything that even thinks of using the cyno going suspect will be quite the deterrent.
It does sound really fun though.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.07 17:51:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:I am beginning to really dislike this hot dropping stuff and covert stuff. Its ruining pvp, people wont engage alot because they know someone has a covert cyno waiting to hotdrop some bops
hot drop to counter the hot drops?
if they are refusing to engage because they know u have a cyno, then wont they be as equally reluctant if u brought the entire fleet up front?
or is it the threat of potential cyno's that scares them? in which case...hi-sec? and dock up for a week every time u get war decced?
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.09 16:45:00 -
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Mascha Tzash wrote:Please define "trade hub" (in the context of the eve online universe) without using the words "Jita","Amarr","Dodixie","Hek","Rens".  How often should CCP check if this was shifting? Or should it be disallowed in every "trade hub" of every region? What about the 12 spawn systems?
u must not be aware that PI is not allowed in 'trade hubs', except Hek. so there must be some way of define them. i dnt know what would happen if a tradehub shifted tho.
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but really how likely is it that a trade hub woud shift? what originally made jita a trade hub (good belts and good agents) were moved years ago, but the trade hub remains. i
Quote:Training up a covcyno alt, messing down it's sec status, deleting it, trainnig a new one.
Should there be a prevention? Would it become abusable (this might be wrong word for it, but I allready heard this word in connection with gank alts) in the way gank alts can be created and thrown away?
last i checked this is considered an exploit. so too would it be for cyno alts. assuming they lose sec status for it. the closest practice to this would be neut logi, which does not incur a sec status hit.
could cyno's be used to abuse noobs? no more than suicide ganking and neut logi IMO. Neut logi is far more of an obstacle to overcome than a bunch of falcons or bombers landing on grid who can only affect the fight if ur already at war with them.
i'd still say the biggest problem is using a neut cloaky scout to get close to targets and then using the cyno to circumvent the advanced warning u get from local (like how miners or missioners dock up when they see a war target in local). but hell, the new inties changed that dynamic already.
As well as using the cyno instead of having the main dps of ur fleet waiting one system out. but again, all u can call in is some bombers and falcons. its hardly a Vindi-Logonski.
the argument about redefining transports with a blop'd BR is just silly for the aforementioned reasons. its not safer than something that is already 99.9999999999% safe (it certainly does not make BR transports 100% safe) and requires considerably more resources than just flying the BR through gates.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.01.28 22:40:00 -
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Lloyd Roses wrote:Just imagine the mad LP you would make running level-4-distributionmissions with a whole secure highsecalliance... you could have a covcyno next to ANY station involved, making movement of goods a matter of undock-cyno-dock, get LP. Risk-free.
confirming, using the same number of accounts to run those super risky level 4 security missions would not net you even more LP and isk and would not save u the fuel cost.
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Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.02.26 19:54:00 -
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Ashlar Vellum wrote:Cool idea, but wouldn't it make highsec space feel more cramped all of a sudden?
u mean increased player interaction?
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Daichi Yamato
Xero Security and Technologies
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Posted - 2014.02.26 21:03:00 -
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Ashlar Vellum wrote:Daichi Yamato wrote:Ashlar Vellum wrote:Cool idea, but wouldn't it make highsec space feel more cramped all of a sudden?
u mean increased player interaction? no, I mean when you can go from one point on the map to another in mere seconds that makes vast amounts of space little and insignificant.
u realise u have to send a ship there first right? and it has to be a particular ship, and only particular ships can jump through. and those particular ships arent the biggest and slowest kind of ships either.
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
Daichi Yamato
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Posted - 2014.02.27 15:38:00 -
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Stephanie Rosefire wrote:
Many people think that PVP is the be all, end all of this game. this is simply not true. while EVE tends to be PVP heavy, PVP cant survive without miners and manufacturers. no ships means no PVP.
Lets stop focusing on making life harder for the people who are the supporting base of the game.
comments like this always makes me cringe.
first, if half the miners disappeared tomorrow, supply of minerals would go down and prices would go up. making mining more valuable. those who do it would get richer, and those who dont would have incentive to take it up.
second, many miners are capable of defending themselves. they will be just fine 'supporting the base of the game' as they always have.
third, this is a PvP game. combat between players is its focus. the market is PvP and mining is also PvP. PvP heavy is an understatement.
fourth, miners who dnt want to learn to defend themselves make themselves easy target. dnt want to be attacked? learn to shoot back.
what u dnt seem to realise is that making things more dangerous for miners only hurts dumb, lazy and unsocial miners. Where as miners who are smart, work hard and make friends would benefit. did u think about how it would be easier to bait war deccers into a trap using cyno's?
EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY?No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided""So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time" |
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